sitting on the edge of the sandbox, biting my tongue

October 18, 2011

Occupy Parenting

Nothing like a cute little blond girl to sell a political message.

Occupy child abuse

These tots couldn't wait to go to Occupy Philadelphia.

The stroller on the right is $500, and the Occupy movement urges followers to shlep their kids.

Just don't stumble into poop, bug-a-boo.

Just don't stumble into poop, bug-a-boo, and you'll be all right.

What kind of parent brings his child to a pigsty like Zuccotti?  Why, this kind:

Some hippie families are toting kids to the wild Occupy Wall Street protests — including one 13-year-old boy who carries a stack of quarters in case he has to make a jailhouse phone call and a homemade solution that washes pepper spray from the eyes.

“The people I ended up sleeping next to were druggies. Someone was trying to put a cigarette out on my face, and I had to roll over,” said the teen, Luca Rozany, who arrived at Zucotti Park after riding 12 hours with his grandfather and best childhood pal from their home in Asheville, NC.

The boy said they thought about leaving — but because of the cops, not the junkies.

That’s interesting.  Judging from their recruitment site, Parents for Occupy Wall Street is hugely concerned with safety.  They claim that they create a family only area, and do hourly head counts with… police.  I don’t question the need to sequester the kids –although they’ll no doubt see enough x-rated activity even when all precautions are in place — but I find it odd that Occupy parents run to NYPD for help.

Luca showed off his arm, where a friend’s cellphone number and a Legal Aid number — in case he needs a a lawyer — were scrawled with permanent marker.

“He’s learning life lessons,’’ said his grandfather, 73, who goes by the name Weezel.

Life lessons, like how to pick open handcuffs.

Occupy child abuse

Me, I want my children to manage their finances and know what kind of people to avoid.

“His mother is an activist; his grandparents are activists. His grandmother has been arrested many times. He’s well equipped to deal with this.”

I’m rooting for little Luca to rebel against his family’s fanaticism.

The elderly protester drove Luca and Mikah Peneghar, also 13, in a pickup loaded with produce donated by farmers near Asheville, where Luca’s mom runs a vegan restaurant.

Luca’s mom regularly goes to protests and other activist activities with her family, Weezel said, including to a months-long stint in Nicaragua last winter to teach the kids about hardship.

“My mom thought we were becoming typical middle-class, spoiled children,” Luca said. “We went down there to get a culture shock.”

For a true culture shock try spaghetti with meatballs.  Or visit Taxes.

Abe Karl-Gruswitz, 34, of Essex County in New Jersey, and his daughter, Beatrice, 6, also stayed overnight at the park Saturday.

“She was the one who wanted to do it,” Karl-Gruswitz said. “She knew what was going on here. It’s like a big party.”

Stay-at-home dad Karl-Gruswitz, whose wife’s accounting job brings home the bacon, doesn’t fear for his daughter — but said if he did, ”it wouldn’t be the people I’d be concerned about; it’d be the police.”

Well, the organizers beg to differ.

Beatrice, with a cute brown bob and a toothy grin, had no complaints about her time on the sidewalk — except that “it was hard to get to sleep because my dad was talking too much.”

See, she’s the one who wanted to do it, but its her dad who was so exited, he wouldn’t shut up.

hippy brainwash

Abe Karl-Gruswitz and daughter spend a memorable night inhaling excrement at Zuccotti Park.

I’m going to say this young lady is camera shy… or else she’s a product of public school education:

“Let’s go see the drums!” says Mary Salen, who came up from her home in Pennsylvania along with her husband and five of her nine—count em—nine children. The youngest, Izzy, 6, was splayed on her shoulders. Ellie, 12, carried a sign touting women’s rights. Asked what concerned her about women’s rights, she replied, “I don’t want them taken away.”

Either way, if I were Mary’s mom, I’d feel awful about embarrassing her.  While the girl’s statement was not bad for an Occupier, a 12-year-old should be able to form a few coherent sentences about her pet cause.

During Columbus day family sleepover 50 parents with children showed up at Zuccotti Park.  Plenty of opportunities to get your baby photographed against the background of two lunatic statements, at least one of them held by a racist.

OWS child abuse

I wrote about this photo before.

Occupy parents understand childhood development:

Another member of the group, Abigail Kramer, came with her 4-year-old son, Dyami. “This was a chance for my son to see that people still have hope to create something better,” she said. “The system was broken with duplicity and there’s a huge lack of accountability. The liberal left didn’t have a voice and that was unbearable.”

I’m sorry to bring it to you Ms. Kramer, your 4-year-old doesn’t understand abstract concepts like “hope to create something better,”but he does get “poop” and “stinks”.   My 4-year-old cries when she doesn’t like the smell.  You can relax, though: grown ups like me can’t understand your “hope to create something better” either, and we’ve had a liberal left President for 3 years now.

OWS child abuse

No he doesn't.

The “brain” behind Occupy family sleepovers is a woman named Kirby Desmarais.  Kirby, who runs Parents for Occupy Wall Street and poses with her 18-months-old for the media, got glowing reviews from a mainstream sites like The Stir and Forbes.

Non share-right picture removed.  It can be found in this editorial.

Babies and toddlers don’t need much, but one thing they do need is consistent routine and a regular bedtime.  So who will squat with an 18-months-old next to a drum circle?  Probably an anarchist hipster parent who never prioritized a routine to start with.  I went to Desmarais’s blog to find this love letter:

Baby G,

Your sleep schedule has always been crazy, you really sleep and wake when you please so we really never know what our nights are going to look like.

Desmarais is a noted co-sleeper, or somebody who sleeps with both her husband and her children in the same bed.  Co-sleeping has been a hot topic in parenting for a few decades, and Demariases was quoted on several wealthy hipster mom sites.  These lovely pictures of her 6-months-old illustrate her blog:

Non-share-right picture removed by request of the owner.

Non-share-right picture removed by request of the owner.

To prevent SIDS parents are advised to put their babies on their backs and remove all pillows and padding from the cribs.  Many moms worry themselves silly once babies start rolling on their tummies — and we shouldn’t.  But 99% of American mothers would cringe when they see these pictures.

To maintain a stable routine parents need to adjust to their babies’ needs.  Not this one.  Desmarais drags her baby to shows and lets bands sleep over at her house.  In fact, she is trying hard to be a non-mainstream, proudly proclaiming on her blog:

I’m Kirby. He is Mark. She is Georgiah. And we’re the least traditional family you’ve ever met.

I dunno, Kirby.  I’ve been around the block a few times.  You are an ordinary crusty chick.

From FAQs:

Are you and Mark Married? Did you plan G?

Strange, nobody ever asks me those kinds of questions.

Evidently, Desmarais, who’s been estranged from her birth family for many years, gave birth at home with only a doula for a medical practitioner.  If a doula can be counted as a medical practitioner.  Doulas are neither licensed nor qualified to deliver babies.  Their job is to comfort the laboring mother, not to identify and handle complications which may arise.  Lucky for Desmarais, she had a quick precipitous birth, which, she says, was “magical”.  Homebirth hippies and Hollywood celebs always have “magical” births.  Because they are better than you and me, the unwashed (or washed?) 99%.

Desmarais says she can’t afford health insurance for her kid, who, I gather, has a per-existing condition.  She runs a record label, and, she says, her husband works two jobs.  I happen to know parents who run record labels, and they are all gainfully employed.
It’s pretty amazing that mother of a child with a pre-existing condition doesn’t make it a priority to get health insurance.  Desmarais needs to trim her ego and get a real job.  Or use some feminine charm and get her husband to provide for the family.  These days Starbucks offers health insurance, but getting a job there, again, would require some ego trimming and quitting at your cool coffee shop.  In other words, the couple has to rethink their lifestyle and forgo the dreams of rock-n-roll glory.
Although I’m sure she loves baby G in her own way, Desmarais is a far cry from conscientious mom who cares about her daughter’s future.  She’s a selfish woman who values her status above her child.  She went to Zuccotti Park to meet other hippies and for future bragging rights, not out of concern for baby G’s well-being.
Parenting is a task for grown ups, for independent and self-sufficient people who can provide stability and security for their kids.  Occupy parents use kids as props to demand conditions under which they will never need to grow up because Big Government will provide for them.
OWS child abuse

Another one of them willing participants. Save his future, call child protective services.

UPDATE: A man arrested at Occupy Seattle for flashing children (h/t Big Government).

UPDATE: Linked by Legal Insurrection — Wow!  Many thanks to Professor Jacobson.

UPDATE: Drunk 11-year-old at Occupy Missoula.



  1. Wow, beautifully written, Missy. I didn’t even know there was a “parent sleepover” planned for the OWS.

    And I dunno. If these OWS folks get all their demands met (and the growth of gov’t power that will necessarily result), we may all need to learn how to get out of handcuffs.



    Comment by nooneofanyimport — October 18, 2011 @ 5:30 pm

  2. When I was that age I went to petting farms (enslavement of animals), rode my bike through the woods (destruction of the environment), going to camp (bourgeois recreation) so I guess I was traumatized when young.

    Comment by Harrison — October 18, 2011 @ 7:43 pm

  3. Linda,
    I found out about this sleepover looking through pictures and noticing a lot of kids. I knew there would be some nutcase who’d bring her child there, but I thought there was an awful lot of them. So I started to google and — voila!
    For the record, I think that although there is always something exploitive about bringing a child to a demonstration, I don’t necessarily think it’s wrong, especially if the event is safe, and the mother doesn’t have a sitter. But THIS?

    Sounds like your parents had it all wrong. They should have dragged you to hang out with junkies. Who knows, maybe you wouldn’t be a conservative blogger today.

    Comment by edge of the sandbox — October 18, 2011 @ 10:14 pm

  4. So they do know how to procreate. I was a afraid of that. Another generation on the way.

    Comment by Conservatives on Fire — October 19, 2011 @ 11:28 am

  5. “My mom thought we were becoming typical middle-class, spoiled children,” Luca said. “We went down there to get a culture shock.”

    The irony is that the protesters are the “typical (white upper-) middle class, spoiled children.”

    And on a side note, when did being an “activist” whatever the hell that means, suddenly become a great thing? Activists are all about their own ego and probably couldn’t give a damn about who they are ‘activating’ for.

    Except for me. I’m an activist for my bowels. I’m going to evacuate,er, activate now.

    Comment by Infidel de Manahatta — October 19, 2011 @ 6:41 pm

  6. Conservatives on Fire,
    Fortunately, most of them voluntarily took themselves out of the breeding pool. Unfortunately, they are after my kids, see public schools.

    I don’t understand what’s so great about being an activist either. It’s not even about a cause, it’s about creating troubles.

    Comment by edge of the sandbox — October 19, 2011 @ 9:15 pm

  7. Really? If you read even a few pages of my blog you realize most of the things above are either taken out of context or completely false. I was going to type everything out point by point but I realize there’s no point because if a writer is OK with themselves to make up lies and bully around parents and children, and there’s sheeps willing to chime into that person’s ego you obviously wouldn’t even hear anything I have to say. You guys bankers by any chance? There’s a thing called being moral and while I may not being doing things you agree with can put my head down every night knowing I haven’t went out of my way to hurt people like you all are OK with doing, that’s progress for our country, real change you’re making happen here guys!

    Comment by Kirby Desmarais — October 21, 2011 @ 3:08 am

    • “You guys bankers by any chance?”
      Why, I’m even Jewish.
      I actually thought I was putting things *in* context.

      Comment by edge of the sandbox — October 21, 2011 @ 9:24 am

      • As per your hosting ( Located at 60 29th Street
        San Francisco, California 94110-4929
        United States

        request and my attorney’s advice I’m publicly requesting you remove my content and photographs off you website they are infringing on the copyrights of my blog’s content. Every single photo of myself and my child was taken by myself or my husband and as the image owners request these to be removed.

        Comment by Kirby Desmarais — November 3, 2011 @ 6:51 am

  8. Would just like to say, that I know Kirby and Mark and they are wonderful parents. Running a small business in this country is not easy which is what her record label is. Just because it’s in a “glamour” industry does not make her any less hard working than a man running a bakery or any other small business that is the backbone of this country. Asking her to give up her dream to go work for a large corporation just to get healthcare is un-American and the reason why she’s out there protesting. It’s time for the united states to return to being America not Ammericorp.

    Comment by Joshua christopher — November 3, 2011 @ 9:12 am

    • Decision to “work hard” as you put it for a glamor industry rather than provide for her child is Kirby’s. Mine and other taxpaying families should not be made to provide for Kirby while she parties with music insiders.
      I do not appreciate being called un-American.

      Comment by edge of the sandbox — November 3, 2011 @ 9:46 am

  9. Wow. This is vile. And by “this,” I mean your willingness to destroy a fellow human being in the name of your political ideals. How dare you make the accusations you make against these people of whom you know nothing but what you’ve drawn from conjecture. You don’t appreciate being called “un-American”? I’m sure Kirby Desmarais doesn’t appreciate being called a child abuser.

    Comment by Christi Smith — November 3, 2011 @ 11:02 am

    • Interesting that you don’t deny calling me un-American.

      Comment by edge of the sandbox — November 3, 2011 @ 11:50 am

      • You may not appreciate it, but that’s just the type if comment it is. You do have the right to speach. As we all do, but unfair judgements against hard-working parents telling them how to take care of their children are just that. You as an individual may not be un-American but your bias and hateful commentary certainly is

        Comment by Joshua christopher — November 3, 2011 @ 12:34 pm

        • We know Occupy loves free speech. The recent Anonymous threat against conservative media and conservative media figures is a proof.

          Comment by edge of the sandbox — November 3, 2011 @ 1:59 pm

  10. […] Kirby Desmarais of Occupy Parenting fame came through yesterday.  Judging by traffic she’s been readying for a while.  She […]

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  11. […] earlier post on #Occupy child abuse is here. GA_googleAddAttr("AdOpt", "1"); GA_googleAddAttr("Origin", "other"); […]

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  12. wow, things got exciting in this thread. Good thing I wasn’t enjoying a beverage when you responded to the “banker” nonsense. I woulda sprayed it all over the screen. perfectly played.

    One of your new visitors bemoaned “your willingness to destroy a fellow human being in the name of your political ideals.” Which is really really funny, considering all the bile that the left spews in order to destroy conservatives (Sarah Palin, anyone?), and also how reserved and restrained your tone was in the post.

    Ah, but you did commit the Cardinal Sin of motherhood: criticizing a mother’s parenting decisions and priorities, so even if you weren’t conservative, you still pushed a Mommy Button.

    Everytime you a successfully get under a leftist’s skin, an angel gets his wings. The offended lady may need to charge you rent for the space you are now occupying in her head.

    Speaking of which, if those photos are still on her blog, couldn’t you link to them next to the “photo removed by request.” That won’t violate any copyright/ownership. Might rub salt in a wound to get traffic from you, though.


    Comment by nooneofanyimport — November 7, 2011 @ 5:30 pm

    • Well, the link to her cite is still here, but I actually like it better this way — a reader’s imagination is put to work. I actually doubt there really is a copyright violation here considering that it’s not commercial use. It’s most likely a gray area of the law, and even if I win, I still lose.

      #Occupy Head Space!

      Comment by edge of the sandbox — November 7, 2011 @ 10:06 pm

  13. #OccupyHeadSpace


    that one could get traction on twitter

    Comment by nooneofanyimport — November 8, 2011 @ 6:39 am

  14. […] old friend Kirby Desmarais who coordinates “family sleepovers” at Zuccotti encourages parents […]

    Pingback by “Zuccotti Lung” and Other Occupy Child Abuse Updates « sitting on the edge of the sandbox, biting my tongue — November 11, 2011 @ 9:49 pm

  15. […] diseases will turn up at the camps was only a matter of time.  At the time Zuccotti announced its first family sleepover, it was already notorious for poor hygiene and drug use.  Perhaps some parents were naive.  Still […]

    Pingback by Another Day, Another Round of #Occupy Child Abuse Updates « sitting on the edge of the sandbox, biting my tongue — November 13, 2011 @ 3:23 pm

  16. […] of the year, this woman must be our mother of the year.  Always on Watch has the runners up, Parents for Occupy Wall Street starring their founder Kirby Desmarais, the chick in a knit hat.  She tried so hard but failed to […]

    Pingback by #Occupy Child Abuse Update: Mother of the Year and Mother of the Year Runners Up « sitting on the edge of the sandbox, biting my tongue — December 19, 2011 @ 1:54 pm

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