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February 22, 2012

A Classic History 101 Question

Filed under: politics — Tags: , , , — edge of the sandbox @ 9:23 pm

Do people make history or does history make people?  Was the rise of Napoleon a natural outcome of the French Revolution because all revolutions end in dictatorships, or did Napoleon emerge as a dictator bending history to his will?

If history makes people, we’d see a genuinely conservative candidate emerge in 2012, right?  Because conditions for his election are there: a weak incumbent, a restless base and a country ready for change.  While we have a few promising conservatives waiting down the line — I’m thinking Rubio and Ryan — they are not ready quite yet.  Rich Perry made a mess of his campaign — better luck next time.

Here is King Shamus on not having a Ronald Reagan this time around:

I know that there are no Republicans running for President in 2012 who are even in the same galaxy as President Reagan.  Ronaldus Ultra Magnus has been called a once-in-a-lifetime politician.  Modern conservatives are starting to see just how painfully singular Reagan really was in America’s history.

But would Ronnie want us to just let Barack Obama win this election and drag the country even further into a statist death-hole?  No.  Reagan would tell us to do the right thing and vote for the most conservative candidate who can win.  Emphasis on ‘vote’.

Also remember Operation Counterweight to keep the next White House occupant in check.

But if the current lack of convincing conservative leadership illustrates the importance of personality in history, it can be a cause for optimism.  Someday soon we  will have a leader like Reagan again.  Lets not screw things up in the meantime.



  1. Thank you for the linkage, Edge. I appreciate it.

    You’re exactly right. While we wait for another Reagan to emerge–which could be a very long time–we should do our best with the flawed pols we have right now.

    Comment by KingShamus — February 23, 2012 @ 5:17 am

  2. Clinton, Bush and, Obama have dug us into a very deep hole. If the EU comes undone, we will go down with them no matter what the next administration does. If by some miracle, the EU can hold itself together, we may have a chance.

    Comment by Conservatives on Fire — February 23, 2012 @ 9:40 am

  3. Ronald Reagan was not viewed as a rock-solid conservative until later in his presidential life. In fact, quite a few people viewed him as rather centrist when he was governor of CA, and were concerned about his credientals. While he certainly turned out to be a staunch defender of the ideal, it could be that it was political opportunism that drove him there.

    None of this is bad. He was a wonderful example. I believe the bigger lament should be that nobody’s capable of grabbing the opportunity in front of them like President Reagan did.

    Comment by Jim Fister — February 23, 2012 @ 10:39 am

    • That’s a very good point. Barack Obama seized the day — he didn’t care that he doesn’t have enough experience, maybe he didn’t know the value of experience. Rubio and Ryan seem to care about it.

      Comment by edge of the sandbox — February 29, 2012 @ 10:00 am

  4. History made George W. Bush which seems to have led to Barack Obama making history (in a bad way).

    Reagan had tried – and failed – to win the Republican nomination before he actually clenched it and won the White House. He arose at the right time and people were more cynical with Nixon and Carter having come before him.

    Sometimes you have to go through crap – Obama – before it’s over.

    Comment by Harrison — February 24, 2012 @ 9:47 pm

  5. My concern is that another round of Obama will forever ruin America as a free country. So many Americans are already dependent on the Nanny State, which is unsustainable.

    Comment by Always On Watch — February 25, 2012 @ 1:40 pm

    • I don’t think it will be good but sometimes you have to plow the field before you can grow anything.

      Comment by Harrison — February 27, 2012 @ 11:44 pm

  6. Do people make history or does history make people? It’s an interesting question. I tend to lean towards the idea that historical trends open the doors for certain people to rise, and that in a nation as large as ours, there must always be at least a few of every type. If true conservatives are staying out of the race, it raises the question: Are there historical forces we can’t yet see that are keeping them out?

    Comment by daniel noe — February 26, 2012 @ 11:17 am

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